4 structural engineers didn't see a need to calculate for the lintel saying a commercially available lintel will suffice. Has excellent adhesion and resists slumping but build up in several layers, allowing each to dry before adding more. House was built in the 1970s. S Builders New Member. thanks for the advice about not needing a. 4kg/m = 364kg. Wooden lintels work just fine - unless you render the outside of your house with Portland cement. pdf (stressline. The lintel is bowing slightly in the. The spec of a lintel is almost entirely dependent on the span because in theory it doesn't matter how many floors worth of walls you build on top of the lintel. Here are the pictures. Just use a 6mm drill bit straight through the steel. Non composite are designed to take point loads, for example a joist sitting straight on top, composite need 3 courses of brickwork first. I don't suppose you sometimes feel like you Iive under an. stuart44 Screwfix Select. Use either lintel or angle iron between brackets. Just buy a small cheap one if you don't have one. There is 1 window, width 580mm, where I cant put the lintel without changing the. Â, Feb 21, 2006. Design will show that a 65mm p/s concrete lintel is ok - cost about £10. I would Get it surveyed. I'm trying to drill some holes above a wide window in a 1960s/1970s ex-council house to fix some brackets (top fixing) for some blinds in the kitchen. If i use a catnic lintel then you will be able to see the underside of the lintel rather than the stone head. #2. I can see that the brick work above the doors sags a bit in the middle, it was like this before but is something that i. It’s all a bit awkward, as it’s where near where my water and electric mains come into the house and there is some legacy mess of the electric box and a bunch of cables etc. While I think this is the easiest option it might look the worst. Hi. Doesn't look like a lintel is in place on the external skin brickwork. Anyway it cost me £180 to have one installed and they used props to hold up brickwork. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Lintel. nutnut New Member. I have. 8m to 2. from $586 12 from. The bricks will be supported on a plate welded to the underside. Steel lintels are structural components installed over an opening in a wall, like a window or a doorway, to support the loads above the gap and prevent the structure. Galintel 75mm x 10mm x 1600mm Galvanised Flat Lintel Flat. 2,The bricks should be on a bed not right on lintel (but only at the front of the lintel) 3,Depends on the condition of the lintel if it seems ok leave it in fit new window rake out and re point. Steel Shelf Angle Lintel. I use a 4mm cobalt bit from the competition (you get a pack of two for a few pence). Available in a variety of options. 0. Click & Collect. ChrisLong Member. Therefore I think careful considered drilling will cause no problems. I've fit new french doors, uPVC ones. Inset lintels and bed in place with mortar. 5 the value that the triangular area of brickwork above the opening actually imparts upon it so structurally wise its well ok as the fact that its. The lintels do not extend far enough to the side of the doorways. 6kg required. The distance from the internal lintel to front of bricks is 90mm. 4. Hi I am doing exactly the same as you with Georgian sash windows, with L lintels above the. Mix up like a regular powdered filler. That is some screws seem to make a sturdy fixing and others fall out, not griping into the lintel at all. i live in a flat built in the mid 50s but im having a door fitted were the window was did they put lintels above the windows in the mid 50s. The old windows were wooden frame and aluminium. £177. I am looking to put a concrete lintel above this which will support a single coarse of blocks and the flat roof. 1m will give a UDL of 19. Aug 25, 2022. Hi, I've been having some trouble drilling into a lintel above a couple of windows, I'm fitting new blinds. com. I understand the loading to be 1. 2,The bricks should be on a bed not right on lintel (but only at the front of the lintel) 3,Depends on the condition of the lintel if it seems ok leave it in fit new window rake out and re point. I saw three of the four lintels that the builder took out. So do they normally a one continuous lintel or both houses have separate lintels. Steve, just so you know the theory of the concrete lintel. Im after an opinion on the attached photo. stevie22 Screwfix Select. 6 mm. This gives me a 200mm overlap on each end. Can then sand down and shape like a regular filler, ready to paint. £23. Houses in the 60's and 70's were often built without a lintel on the outer skin. Step 4 - hollow out chimney. The lintel has failed at the end, you can see outside where the end has been patched up. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ElecCEng Screwfix Select. Joe the Plumber Screwfix Select. Above the garage door will be cladded with cement board rather than be load bearing like blocks. The hole i want to make is 18 inch wide x 25 inch high in the inner leaf blockwork. Step 1: is the lintel man enough to carry the loads? Step 2: install following manufacturers instructions to prop during brickwork as span > 1500. 2m. (1)Chop it out and build a brick arch over the actual fireplace, no lintel required, brick up sides as normal. I the house is 1950s all brickwork and I need to replace the lintels above the doors as there will not be a big enough overhang each side. Parts of cracked block have moved inwards into the room: the small piece I’ve labelled A has moved into the room by about 2mm, and the larger piece B has moved into the room by about. Wooden lintels work just fine - unless you render the outside of your house with Portland cement. Secure and support timber & masonry structures safely & professionally. The RSJ size is 5155mm supported on the side wall 250mm pillars. After the new lintels are in place. However, this is structural engineer's calculation, building inspector is happy with it. Architect has advised to use a box 200 lintel, but what are my options. CGN Screwfix Select. Prevent heating of the drill bit by using water. Notnowvicar, Feb 23, 2023. 8 x 0. Post-fixing concrete suitable for all types of domestic fencing. The bricks are probably over-hanging the lintel edges so you can't see anything. Support bracket for removal of internal chimney breast. Free returns. 5 masonry bit to punch through as this saves your nice sharp HSS bit from being blunted as you ram it throught the lintel into brickwork. replace lintel and then have the joints repointed to ensure integrity between bricks. #6. To solve this we fitted a 'Catnic' lintel to support the outer leaf only. The walls are solid brick with the outside lintel made of stone (no cracks or issues that I can see) and on the inside there is a wooden lintel. com. Either way it’ll need a good SE to make sure. foxer fc Member. The installers need to sort it properly. The easiest/most effective solution is to drill into the lintel. I think there are several ways the water could be gettig in: (a) there's a crack between the lower course of bricks and the upper side of the lintel, possibly made worse by cable holders penetrating the pointing (no I didn't put those in) and (b) there's a cracks in the. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Aron82, Apr 18, 2021. I was going to ensure each end of whatever lintel that I get is embedded in the wall by at least 150mm each side. It's all right to do but good luck doing it, I have cast insitu concrete lintels in my house and have fitted vertical blinds, what a nightmare it was drilling the lintel, you need to aim for the middle if possible because of the reinforcing wire tends to run along each side, normally a couple of inches in from the edge. I was worried if i needed anymore width. The thickness of the concrete lintel is 100mm x 65mm. #11. You need to check with whoever has speccd them to ensure they meet structural design. It's not just a question of replacing the lintel either. Stephen White New Member. Chang New Member. Everything else has gone fine so far and I don't want to walk away from a home. Click & Collect. Step 2 - install lintel and place props and strongboys wait 5 days for mortar to set. 8 m wide. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by shaun1235456, Apr 13, 2017. Which would sensibly be a PS concrete type. Screwfix Community Forum. Hi, I'm a building a garden room out of 3 x2 cls c24. Bearings at each end must be at least 150mm. talk New Member. when i removed the old timber frame patio doors i noticed that there didn't appear to be a lintel on the outer brick wall, only a concrete one on the inner block wall. It may have been cast in place and bars have gone rusty plus water got in it so it's cracked. Don't reuse the old lintel. Add to Cart. Without doing research into current regulations, based on my experience alone I’d suggest you will definitely need a 600mm lintel and with a cavity tray and weep vents above. I don’t believe it is a cavity wall. If you hit the rebar in the lintel when drilling in to the concrete lintel, its integrity will be compromised. 8kn. The inner wall section has already a concrete lintel. The builder cleaned the bricks and mortar around the new lintels with brick cleaner to help disguise the work done on the house. Cotswold Builders, Mar 6, 2015. Looks like a small section has blown about 100 mm long by 10mm deep. If they're sensible. What would be the name of the lintel i. Height and width will be 200 X 100mm. Either a solid wall lintel or concrete internally and L shaped steel externally, all @1500 in length. The lintel is only supporting the inner skin of block work. The lintel is bowing slightly in the middle (measured to be 12mm lower in the middle than at the edges). Hammerman99, Mar 4, 2012. Any ideas please? fred812, Jun 18, 2021. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Replacing lintel. Would i need a small lintel above the hole supporting the blockwork? Its a single story extension with a pitched slate roof, so the inner leaf is supporting the roof. Next day pack gap with slate and remove acrow. A standard brick is 102mm wide. Mr. I’ve got a solid brick wall at around 350mm thickness with an opening of 2. The Stressline fair faced prestressed concrete lintel, 100mm wide x 215mm high, 2. That would be plenty to go under it and still leave you about 80 - 55mm of lintel to put the acrows onto. This could be a very easy DIY job if that wall above the opening ain't holding the ceiling/floor joists up. Screwfix Community Forum. And all the same to anyone else. Slow and steady. Roughly speaking do you think a H. #5. So roughly speaking if I allow some room for the plaster etc I'd likely be able to drill above the lintel if I went in 100mm from the top of the window reveal as seen from the inside? yetanothermike, Jul 12, 2023. Height 55mm. 5m rule. One method of forming a lintel with soldiers and a cast insitu concrete inner lintel, was to fix wall ties into the joints of the soldiers and then cast the inner lintel. I used an angle grinder to cut through the bricks and got a fairly good result. You select your lintel based on loading it needs to resist Based on your description you will need a lintel that can take Area of a 45 degree triangular load above lintel = width x half the height = 1. #9. One opening will need to support three floor joists at midspan. I have an idea to use steel angle brackets to attach to the lintels and shed, but what would be a good way to attach the brackets to the top of the lintel, it will need to. There is a wooden lintel above the door which is bent and starting to rot due to leaking gutter which washed rain water down the side of the building, this has been sorted. Hi Jitender. Discussion in. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Upvc fascia board/lintel. Its hard not knowing what the gap between the plasterboard and brick is etc. The lintel has the same width as the PVCu sliding door. The wall itswlf is an external end of house (detached) wall, bottom floor. Have you fixed the leak above them, because if not, that's. Use either lintel or angle iron between brackets. I plan to put L10 IG Steel Lintels in, with a span of 1500mm and 2400mm (includes 150mm overhang at each end) which will carry approx 2-3 courses of brick. One method of forming a lintel with soldiers and a cast insitu concrete inner lintel, was to fix wall ties into the joints of the soldiers and then cast the inner lintel. More Info. The rawlplug goes about 60 mm into the lintel. 31 each (Inc. Wall on the right side of the opening (the compromised side) is 9cm thick, and wall on the left side is 25cm thick. You must support the floor and wall above properly with acro's and needles before attempting to remove the brickwork. rogerk101, Jul 1, 2020. The roof is a tiled type goong front to rear and pitched in construction. Or is there some other method that would work. 2/ mortar up the 2 end bearings drop the lintel onto these then backfill the upper surface. This is a big RSJ steel lintel which has a plate welded to the bottom of it and so I am guessing it is approxinamely 10-12mm thick. Little bit confused about the amount of choice regarding concrete lintels. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Just Talk > lintel. This lintel will be re used for one window. The lintel only needs to support 4 courses of bricks above the door. Bed your pad stone down as well. I have a couple rotten joists by the front door (hall) and a rotten lintel above the door on the lower ground floor. Hello everyone, I’m after a bit of advice, please. e. This supports 2 seperate steel lintels. . 3 high, max 4 metre to apex roof. Don't use a disc cutter: you will fill the house with dust in nothing flat and SWMBO will get seriously stressed. Simon74, Sep 13, 2016. From flat steel lintels to catnic steel lintels. Could i chase the lintel for some pvc capping or. yetanothermike Member. This could be a RSJ steel lintel or concrete lintel. Damn, not seen one of those for years. KIAB , Feb 22, 2019 #4I m planning on replacing some old single glazed windows in my house with new uPVC double glazed units. To make matters worse, right below the lintels is the main water supply pipe (28mm) which makes it difficult to get them out and even more difficult to. So this was the main lintel over the garage span supporting the upper story. In theory yes you should fit a lintel. Severntrent Screwfix Select. A window company I've used before gave me a reasonable quote for the doors, but they've given me an estimate of £1,500 - £2k to put a lintel in. qwas123 Screwfix Select. Any advice is gratefully recieved. Concrete lintel would be absolutely fine. This was more common on brickwork that was n't seen, and obviously when it was seen, the more traditional decorative arch was used directly above the opening. sospan, Feb 9, 2017. Supreme L03 Steel Reinforced Concrete Lintel - 100 x 65 x 1200mm. sospan Screwfix Select. stevie22 Screwfix Select. 8m. There is no loft above, pictured will provide a better idea of the situation. I would Get it surveyed. What lintel is on the outer skin? Or is it an arch. I have exposed the internal side of the concrete lintel above my lounge window as I was adding insulation behind the plasterboard. Supplied in a weatherproof bag. Don't use one of those saws. I’ve got a solid brick wall at around 350mm thickness with an opening of 2. 150 is the norm as you say with 100 ok at low span. Rebuild brickwork above lintel and allow to set. The timber lintel above the rear bedroom window is particularly undersized, and has bowed. I’m planning on using a strong boy prop to hold the downstairs load bearing wall in the centre while I fit a 1200mm concrete lintel. 8m) Rather more than a rotten piece of timber strength of not much more than 0kN/m,. The info on this can be a bit confusing, but basically Catnic claim their lintels don't need a tray whereas others do need them. Footings and load calculations will be required. As you found when the lintel bent, the wall did not follow (immediately!). Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Lintel alternative? Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by mcooper2406, Jun 23, 2019. ProDave, Aug 18, 2007. however now ive removed the doors ive found theyve used a timber lintel (it is a load bearing wall), the width of the opening is 3. #2. Alfie Johnson New Member. Houses are 150+ years old and the lintels are very wet/rotten and have started to fall out. 5kn per sq metre. 4. I am guessing (emphasis on guessing) that the SDS is quickly going through plaster and maybe. This coupled with the fact that the bedroom directly above has a very spongey and dipping floor (dips roughly in line with the window below) make me. they have had pvc windows put in 3 months ago and whoever did it put a lintel up because the made the window smaller but the lintel is only 3/4 the lenght of the window and above has been bricked up with paving. I reckon the start of my opening will be 450mm away. 9 KB Views: 48. So the lintel manufacturers are more likely the ones spreading such tosh. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Judith Birkett, Nov 8, 2020. The cracks only span as wide as the window itself, around 3m, and are only maximum 1mm in width. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Pawr, Apr 29, 2017. Anyone could help to explain their advantages and dis vantages. Tamp it well down into the formwork to get rid of any voids. Bob Rathbone, May 7, 2023. Jord86 Screwfix Select Some pictures of the whole wall would be helpful. Install a single leaf lintel (Catnic, IG or Keystone lintels) with 150mm overhang each side. For the sake of a bit of extra work and sorting that mess out just hire a couple of size 0 acrows, a couple of strongboys, stitch drill the mortar bed joint and bang them in above the higher lintel, remove all the cack underneath that's not needed and insert a new lintel once the brickwork is tidied up. There will only be 2 courses of concrete blocks above them then a steel profile sheet roof. There is a beam resting above the window in the garage and this has caused the metal lintel to bow causing cracking around the mortar of the breeze blocks on the inside wall. The images attached should go some way in showing the problem. The part picture is the widest. The ones with the black squares is where the window will be going. I'm debating if i need to put in a lintel or in this case a piece if angle iron before I'm going to cut a small hole in a 1960's precast concrete wall. The issue is long term Damp Proofness of the lintel (i. CLEARANCE. My solution would be to fit a Catnic lintel above the stone lintel that is a good 150mm wider each side, this would relive the weight off the broken stone lintel. It's a heavy lift, but two strong people can do it. Support bracket for removal of internal chimney breast. Above one of my windows is a crack going along what i presume is a concrete lintel, is this dangerous and. I thought padstones were supposed to be slate or metal! Mr. 8m long to accommodate the other window. Handyandy Screwfix Select. OP you're overthinking. The attached photos will explain it better than I can. The wall is very cold to touch during the. There is an existing door on the wall and the new opening would be about 2. 28 x 284. 2 = 4. 2m. I am looking to put a concrete lintel above this which will support a single coarse of blocks and the flat roof. You won't lose any internal floor area and having the thermal mass (ie brick wall and concrete slab) inside the insulation will make a big difference. Thanks for the advice Phil. It's solid but I know rust eats through eventually which has scared me a little. 31 each (Inc. The lintel has the same width as the PVCu sliding door. So you need to find a steel stockholders / fabricators (London's not my area - sorry) and ask them for 2 n. So the lintel manufacturers are more likely the ones spreading such tosh. I intend to replace the conservatory, but just find that the mortar above the lintel has cracks causing like 3-5mm horizontal gap. com. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Lintel. I have a door opening of 1. Another possibility is a lintel has cracked but again this is major issue not a £350 invisible repair! Honestly I can not imagine any work that a) a window company would do 2) would cause no disruption 3) would only cost £350. JED, Dec 10, 2004. D. OP you're overthinking. Fixing could either be bolted through the beam or strapping however it depends on load. Buy online & collect in hundreds of stores in as little as 1 minute! 30 day money back guarantee. Will SF basic wood screws work fine or do I need to buy a specific type / brand? What's your preffered screw type /brand for fixing into lintels? Thanks. Two questions: 1. trowel New Member. #2. Drill hole- fix bracket with a twin thread 4. With concrete up top, a prestressed concrete lintel would not look out of place. Most probably yes. Phil the Paver Screwfix Select. Write a review. £29. Chang New Member. If it was my own place I wouldn't mind as I would remember to take the key out before opening. Just as important as the size of beam/lintel itself is to check that the lintel manufacturers will be designing the padstones to support each end of the lintel. I was thinking about putting a bit of timber although that would need brackets (i was thinking of a wooden block) on the end verticals to support it and worried it might all be a bit ugly/bulky. A lintel works with the wall during construction and it is at this point when it is under maximum stress. The lintel only needs to support 4 courses of bricks above the door. Morning all after a bit of advice on lintel currently installed. We moved to our first home about 6 months ago, there is an extension with two patio doors which was installed circa 20 years ago. The UK’s leading retailer of. Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Landscaping and Outdoors > Concrete lintels concreted into the ground to support shed, advice. I would put a slightly longer lintel in that is toothed into the sides of the original builders opening. The opening's been narrowed and shortened at some point in the past (I get the feeling this was done by a previous owner rather than a professional). Hopefully the picture helps. The installers need to sort it properly. There are different materials used for lintel beams depending on the design and. I have been able to find the producers of the form of lintel number two, (window head and lintel), which appears to be entirely within the cavity and sloping towards the outer leaf. You can then remove the infill below back to the opening and rebuild properly. I have no idea how to overcome that as the brackets will not hold up when. Unless it's an unusually wide doorframe, don't bother with mechanical fixings in the head, once frame is fixed in position through the jambs, squirt expanding foam all around the back and head to close any gaps, insulate and further secure in position, it'll. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > timber lintel. Would a 100 x 65 lintel be sufficient given that there is very little weight above or should I go bigger. The lintel sounds hollow when tapped and doesn't seem to be any bricks above it - went into loft - no insulation above and just seems to be boards. Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by AndyBowen, Mar 31, 2023 . 75 x 6. The project has secured Building Consent from local planning although there has been no. So such a short lintel does not normally carry the weight of the masonry etc. This method takes minutes - lintels and 2 pours takes hours!Hi I have a small room on the front of our house which has has what looks like two lintels put in, however I wanted to put a stud wall in attaching the head bar to one of the lintels. I thought padstones were supposed to be slate or metal! Mr. If the screw is extremely tight to wind in, it maybe to large for the pilot hole and could snap if this is the case. They have become a little wobbly since the. The stone lintel could be removed and repaired with threaded rods through from left to right, tighten the nuts and pull the lintel back together, re fit the lintel as decoration only.